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You only draw attention to it by posting it here, and templating them 18 months after they edited. It's very stale. Secretlondon (talk) 08:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Sorry my mistake. Theroadislong (talk) 16:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Not a blatant violation of the username policy, but it's worth keeping an eye on their edits. --Ahecht (TALK
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Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing – WP:EW in a WP:ARBAP2 article. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:38, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

@Muboshgu I'm not sure semi-protection would work here since the editor you reverted is extended confirmed. --Ahecht (TALK
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16:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Ahecht, of course. I didn't know that I wanted to suggest full protection.... – Muboshgu (talk) 16:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected for a period of three days, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. The editor being reverted most frequently is a non-autoconfirmed editor who only created his account yesterday and has only edited this article. Let's see how this works. Daniel Case (talk) 20:12, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
I also left a CTOPS notice on the talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 20:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Temporary extended protection: Content Dispute/Edit Warring. Also potential sockpuppetry, but no hard evidence/investigation. Sinclairian (talk) 15:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. Daniel Case (talk) 20:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Indefinite semi-protection: BLP policy violations – Persistent BLP violation of WP:GENSEX CTOP requiring RD2. Requesting Abitration enforcement. Raladic (talk) 16:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protected indefinitely. Will log at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 20:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Indefinite semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing – I have found cases of disruptive editing on this article done by IP users and newcomers. Kolano123 (talk) 17:29, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I mean that there has been unconstructive edits on the article Kiwifruit. Kolano123 (talk) 19:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Reason: Recent history is mostly vandalism and reverts Tule-hog (talk) 17:37, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. 8 previous protections. Filmssssssssssss (talk) 17:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Pending changes: Persistent vandalism. Filmssssssssssss (talk) 17:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Pending-changes protected for a period of 2 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Fathoms Below (talk) 19:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Reason: Mobile editor keep changing the intro to the page. NHL considers Coyotes to be inactive, but mobile editor keep saying otherwise GoodDay (talk) 17:58, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

@GoodDay Semi-protected for a period of 1 month, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. --Ahecht (TALK
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Temporary semi-protection: BLP policy violations – Frequent editing regarding status as Archbishop, which has not been established as of yet in sources. Mostly by new accounts or IP. Request temporary PP to reduce instances. Rambling Rambler (talk) 18:17, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing – Same IP editor disruption as Silent Night, Deadly Night Part 2, which is currently semi-protected until February 11. MrOllie (talk) 18:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Reason: One of the many election related articles suffering IP disruption for a long time. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of six months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Will log at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 20:37, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – AGAIN. Tres Libras (talk) 18:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Automated comment: One or more pages in this request appear to already be protected. Please confirm.—cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 18:53, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Already protected by administrator Ivanvector. Favonian (talk) 19:08, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. TornadoLGS (talk) 19:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. Filmssssssssssss (talk) 19:37, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected indefinitely. Will log at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 20:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing – Contest dispute, mostly between IP users (I count about 12 reverts in the last four days). Aoi (青い) (talk) 19:51, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Create protection: Repeatedly recreated. TornadoLGS (talk) 19:56, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Reason: Individual has just died. Mobile/IP editors are messing up the infobox & page, due to lack of knowledge on the subject & topic. GoodDay (talk) 19:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Indefinite extended protection: WP:GS/RUSUKR TylerBurden (talk) 20:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Reason: Over half of previous 50 edits were IP vandalism Wildfireupdateman (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Reason: Sudden influx of vandalism Wildfireupdateman (talk) 20:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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Reason: Looking through the history indicates the main edit wars are IP vs EC editors, not EC vs EC. Can this article please be downgraded from full administrative protection to EC protection? I believe protection skipped EC protection and was set straight to administration protection, despite it being edit wars from IP vs EC editors. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 15:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't like to essentially grant AC or EC editors the edit war through protection if there seem to be legitimate differences that require true consensus to resolve. It was (and is) hard to tell since the talk page has been sort of underutilized for this purpose and what discussion has taken place there seems to have centered around other users' misconduct, bad faith or allegations of same.
There is no requirement that protection go through levels before being imposed. Often it is, yes, but if I think full protection for a very limited time (which I think the requesting editor may have asked for in this case) would work better, I'm going to do it. Daniel Case (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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My suggestion is to leave out the following 2 sentences in the "German complicity" paragraph as they seem to be based on misunderstandings:

"She also highlighted police suppression of pro-Palestine protests throughout Germany[509] as evidence of state complicity.[508] Karen Wells et al. highlight how Germany has entrenched its complicity in Israel's actions by banning use of the word "genocide" in reference to Israel.[471][better source needed]"

1. In general violent protests are not allowed in Germany. As some of the first pro-Palestine protests were violent, they were sometimes forbidden by courts, if they were expected to turn violent. But that is common policy in Gemany with all subjects and not special for pro-Palestine protests.

Meanwhile, there even is a calendar concerning pro-Palestinian protests[1] with daily up to 20 protests all over Germany. Thus, there is no general police suppression of pro-Palestine protests as is suggested by the current wording.

2. The word “genocide” is not banned in reference to Israel in Germany - maybe that was a misunderstanding: What is not allowed in Germany is to call for genocide against Jews. The slogan “From the river to the sea” is seen as such call and banned. Gilbert04 (talk) 15:34, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

@FortunateSons: A quick browse shows at least for the first part support for removal, can you add any additional incite? -- Cdjp1 (talk) 12:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
I can confirm that both statements are broadly true. IMO, the best resource for this discussion (in the contemporary context) is probably Steinberg: Versammlungsfreiheit nach dem 7. Oktober - NVwZ 2024, 302. Direct citation: “Die Subsumtion unter diesen Tatbestand bereitet aber auch sonst Probleme. Die Stadt Frankfurt a. M. hatte dem Anmelder einer Versammlung „Frieden in Nahost" am 2.12.2023 untersagt, während der Versammlung zur Vernichtung Israels aufzurufen, dem Staat Israel das Existenzrecht abzusprechen, sowie die Aussagen „Israel Kindermörder", „Juden Kindermörder", „Israel bringt Kinder um" sowie „From the river to the sea" zu tätigen. Diese Beschränkungen hob das VG Frankfurt vollständig auf. Auf die Beschwerde der Stadt differenzierte der VGH Kassel Aufrufe zur Vernichtung Israels verstießen - wie gesagt - gegen § 111 StGB und die Aussage „Juden Kindermörder" erfülle den Tatbestand der Volksverhetzung (§ 130 StGB). Demgegenüber wurden andere Außerungen wie „Kindermörder Israel" oder die Bezeichnung der israelischen Militäroperationen in Gaza als „Genozid" nicht beanstandet und die Entscheidung des VG insoweit aufrechterhalten. Es sei davon auszugehen, dass bei den militärischen Verteidigungshandlungen Israels auch Kinder zu Schaden kämen. Eine solche laienhafte Zuspitzung sei im Rahmen der Meinungsfreiheit hinzunehmen. Anders hatte der VGH Mannheim am 21.10.2023 ein Verbot der Parole „Israel Kindermörder" und „Israel bringt Kinder um" durch die Versammlungsbehörde trotz bestehender Zweifel über deren Strafbarkeit aufrechterhalten; im Verfahren des vorläufigen Rechtsschutzes sei nur eine summarische Prüfung möglich; eine einmal getätigte Äußerung könne nicht rückgängig gemacht werden. Die Unterscheidung zwischen antisemitisch und antiisraelisch stellt sicherlich eine Gratwanderung dar, die hier im Einzelnen nicht beschrieben werden kann“autotranslated: “However, the subsumption under this offense also causes other problems. On December 2, 2023, the city of Frankfurt am Main had prohibited the person registering a meeting "Peace in the Middle East" from calling for the destruction of Israel during the meeting, from denying the State of Israel the right to exist, and from making the statements "Israel, child murderer," "Jews, child murderer," "Israel kills children" and "From the river to the sea." The Administrative Court of Frankfurt completely lifted these restrictions. In response to the city's complaint, the Administrative Court of Kassel differentiated that calls for the destruction of Israel violated - as mentioned - Section 111 of the Criminal Code and that the statement "Jews, child murderer" constituted incitement to hatred (Section 130 of the Criminal Code). In contrast, other statements such as "Israel, child murderer" or the description of Israeli military operations in Gaza as "genocide" were not objected to and the Administrative Court's decision was upheld in this respect. It can be assumed that children would also be harmed in Israel's military defense actions. Such a lay exaggeration must be accepted within the framework of freedom of expression. On October 21, 2023, the Mannheim Higher Administrative Court upheld a ban on the slogans "Israel, child murderer" and "Israel kills children" by the assembly authority despite existing doubts about their criminal liability; in the interim legal protection procedure, only a summary examination is possible; a statement once made cannot be reversed. The distinction between anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli is certainly a balancing act that cannot be described in detail here.” There is no broad ban on pro-Palestinian protests either, and they were even allowed to happen on Oct. 7 of this year (in some cases). While there are legal disputes on specifics for both, I’m pretty confident that no reasonable person would disagree with “broadly permitted” regarding both claims. FortunateSons (talk) 16:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Bonus: there can be cases where something isn’t criminal, but can be restricted in other ways, for example due to different burdens of proof or social pressures. FortunateSons (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
I've removed #2. But there does seem to be evidence that pro-Palestine protests have been banned in parts of Germany at times.[2][3][4].VR (Please ping on reply) 14:55, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. Maybe the following article gives a bit more clarity.[[5]] Gilbert04 (talk) 18:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Unfortunately that source seems incomplete. Germany has indeed suppressed peaceful criticism of Israel.[6] And Washington Post says "A planned photo exhibit in southwestern Germany was canceled as a result of social media posts by its curator, including one describing “genocide” in Gaza."[7] VR (Please ping on reply) 22:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Well, I do not think that any source will ever be complete. Let me add two more.[[8]][[9]] Gilbert04 (talk) 20:44, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Consider changing "The Israeli government rejected South Africa's allegations, and accused the court of being antisemitic, which it often does when criticised" to "The Israeli government has been accused of consistently weaponizing antisemitism against it's critics, including in the ICJ ruling." Ecco2kstan (talk) 23:12, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

The Weaponization of antisemitism page hyperlinked over "often done" has many sources to draw from regarding the accusations' consistency and nature.
My main concern with the original text is that it's voiced as if it's an observation made by a Wikipedian. The benefit here is that the weaponization of antisemitism has a clearer consistency grounded outside of Wikipedia. Perhaps other ways to word this out include adding a time scale (increasingly accused since Oct. 7th) or specifying the critique (against critiques of their actions since Oct 7th).
If a lead paragraph change is necessary, there may be reason to outline Israeli motives and conditions for the genocide, including Zionism and anti-Arab racism. Ecco2kstan (talk) 23:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
@Ecco2kstan, how about: "The Israeli government rejected South Africa's allegations. Supporters of Israel say that accusing Israel of genocide is both antisemitic[10][11] and a form of Holocaust erasure[12], but others argue antisemitism shouldn't be exploited to shield Israel from such allegations.[13][14][15][16]".VR (Please ping on reply) 00:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm not as familiar with the Holocaust erasure claims, but I'm happy with that reworking! If that weaponization of Holocaust denial detail isn't on the weaponization of antisemitism page already, it might be a worthwhile phenomenon incorporate if there's more citations you can find. I might look into it myself. Thanks! Ecco2kstan (talk) 03:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
That does sound quite balanced. +1 from me. Neutral Editor 645 (talk) 18:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
@Vice regent: Would you please make this change, so we can close this request? ~Anachronist (talk) 21:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
The text I originally wanted modified was changed to "Israel's supporters say that accusing Israel of genocide is antisemitic, but others argue antisemitism should not be exploited to shield Israel from such allegations" after other discussions on the talk page. I almost like it better, but by saying "Israel's supporters" it relieves some of the responsibility from the Israeli government in the accusations that was, to an extent, duly credited in the original modification. Maybe now, it should just say "The Israeli government and their supporters say that accusing the state for genocide antisemitic..." or something similar. Ecco2kstan (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

The 70% figure in both the primary and the secondary source refers to the deaths that were verified by the UN Human Rights Office, not the totality of deaths in Gaza.

Accordingly, the current phrasing "70% of Palestinian deaths in Gaza are women and children" is inaccurate and should be changed to "70% of the 8,119 verified deaths were women and children" Zlmark (talk) 06:10, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

in the content, higehst grossing franchises, rank 4 (Cop Universe), in that one, the movie Singham Returns (2014) is highlighted in green which indicates it is a recent movie, but actually the movie Singham Again (2024) should be highlighted in green because unlike Singham Returns, it is a recent movie, it has wrongly been marked, kindly correct it. Thanks :) Zev the Editor (talk) 16:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I would like to request the addition of the following paragraph on Singapore’s support for a two-state solution under the section "International Positions on the Two-State Solution" in the Two-state solution article:

International Positions on the Two-State Solution

Singapore: Singapore supports a two-state solution for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, advocating for a negotiated outcome aligned with relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions. According to Singapore’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Singapore believes this approach allows Israelis and Palestinians to coexist peacefully and securely, considering it the only viable path toward a comprehensive, just, and lasting resolution. Singapore also consistently upholds the Palestinian right to a homeland. The PLO, which constitutes the key pillar of the current Palestinian Authority, accepts Israel's right to exist and has renounced terrorism.[1]

EsenL (talk) 02:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Reply to Parliamentary Question on Palestine". Retrieved 2024-11-12.
Source? Providing a source to back up your edit drastically improves the chance it'll be done. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 02:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
have added! thanks! EsenL (talk) 02:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I would like to request that... (1. According to 2023 estimates the USA has 453,191 speakers.[1]
2. According to 2021 census, Canadas has 120,600 speakers[2].
3. According to 2021 census, Nepal has 23,774 speakers.) . 106.221.114.2 (talk) 03:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

In the "Indirect" section, the following sentence should be added after "186,000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza":

Three days after the publication, one of the writers, Professor Martin McKee, clarified that the 186,000 figure was “purely illustrative”[1] and stated that “our piece has been greatly misquoted and misinterpreted.”[2]

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Template:Editnotice/notice (request) 2024-10-08 20:04 Template-protected (log) Modified by Callanecc on 2014-02-14: "Highly visible template: and included in a high-risk template"
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Module:Lang-zh (request) 2024-10-10 09:41 Template-protected (log) From Module:Zh: Protected by HJ Mitchell on 2014-05-03: "High-risk Lua module"
Template:Coat of arms (request) 2024-10-30 09:36 Template-protected (log) Modified by Primefac on 2020-08-29: "High-risk template"
Template:WikiProject Cricket (request) 2024-11-08 09:21 Template-protected (log) Modified by Renamed user mou89p43twvqcvm8ut9w3 on 2016-10-15: "Highly visible template"
Template:Country data United Kingdom (request) 2024-11-09 00:05 Template-protected (log) Modified by WOSlinker on 2013-10-19: "allow template editors to modify"
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Module:College color/data (request) 2024-11-10 03:37 Template-protected (log) Modified by Galobtter on 2019-01-24: "High-risk Lua module"
Module:Political party (request) 2024-11-11 00:06 Template-protected (log) Protected by MusikBot II on 2021-11-18: "High-risk template or module: 13487 transclusions (more info)"
Template:Infobox language (request) 2024-11-11 23:47 Template-protected (log) Modified by MusikAnimal on 2021-08-16: "Highly visible template: transclusion count now over 9,000; most recent editors are still able to edit"
Template:Post-nominals (request) 2024-11-12 15:17 Template-protected (log) Modified by Galobtter on 2019-03-07: "Highly visible template: 30000+ transclusions; while subpages are regularly edited by non-template editors, this does not appear to need so"
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Hey, I am here again with another editor who has created 86 articles, including BLPs. One of their creations was taken to AfD but resulted in a keep. I reviewed some of their articles and found that adding them to the AP could be beneficial. Basic checks were done, and no major issues were found. It’s up to you, and thanks! GrabUp - Talk 18:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
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I'd like to keep using AutoWikiBrowser to better add WikiProjects to talk pages in other languages, such as those in the Vietnamese versions of Establishments in Italy by year, as well as fixing (not necessarily removing like before) unknown parameters in templates. OpalYosutebito (talk) 13:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

 Automated comment This user has had this permission revoked in the past 180 days ([17]). MusikBot talk 13:30, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Your use of AWB appears to have been removed rather than for inactivity - can you explain why or how you will use AWB within the rules and guidelines going forward? Primefac (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
{{not done}}, no reply. Primefac (talk) 19:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
I didn't receive a reply notification, sorry. I will not focus on flat-out removing unknown parameters like before, but instead fixing them (the biggest example being using the "via" parameter instead of "agency" for some of the citation templates). - OpalYosutebito (talk) 01:28, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Courtesy ping: Gonzo fan2007, who revoked. charlotte 👸♥ 03:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Reason for requesting autowikibrowser rights: I have achieved 500 mainspace edits and I feel like this tool will be used so that I can contribute to wikipedia while expanding my knowledge of it- as well as how these tools work. This tool will be handy in my improvement of wikipedia articles no matter stub or good articles. This tool will be so handy in fixing problems that are in multiple articles! Thanks, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 13:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Cooldudeseven7, do you actually see a need for this right now or is it just a thing you are wanting to play around with? Primefac (talk) 19:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
I am trying to first make categories follow WP:CATSPECIFIC, I also am trying to do bulk additions of inline citations, as well as general cleanup to articles in bulk. Thanks, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 12:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
@Primefac, Just following up, is there any news on this thread or is it declined ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 12:20, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Haven't had a chance to look at perms the last few days; if another admin doesn't get to it I should be able to free up some time this weekend. Primefac (talk) 12:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Alright,  Thanks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 13:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
 Done. Primefac (talk) 12:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much!! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 16:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Disambugation links. I really enjoy doing them and I'd like to help bring the "articles with Dab links" number into the 3 digits. If you'll look at my dab history you'll see I have dealt with everything from standard, to Vandalism, to navbox, and even had to update a module for a disambugation link that had been present for a few months. I'm currently null editing manually ~120 pages so they won't be on the dab list and slow anyone else down.

I currently do the majority of my disambugation on mobile, but if granted permission I can allocate two days on desktop to disambiguate. Based on on current normal fluctuations, I'm confident that I can help get disambiguation articles down to triple digits within 3-4 months. (notwithstanding random navbox disambiguation).

I am currently ranked in the top 10 DAB users although that doesn't mean much right now considering the top 2 have about ten times my number. RCSCott91 (talk) 19:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Clarification: I can allocate 2 days per week. Sorry for the ambiguity. RCSCott91 (talk) 21:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

I want to replace these links. For example, "LGBTQ" per WP:CONSUB and "minor-planet" for "minor-planet designation" per WP:HYPHEN and Talk:Minor-planet designation#Requested move 21 September 2021. Absolutiva (talk) 01:34, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Does anyone grant AWB permission? It's been for a week. Absolutiva (talk) 03:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Just checking, are these changes you want to make in order to avoid a redirect, or because the term(s) are actually incorrect? If it's the former, AWB should not be used. I meant to ask this the other day but got sidetracked. Primefac (talk) 12:53, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm trying to change links per page move, as well as moving categories. Absolutiva (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I own the Carpimaps2 account. Please transfer AWB rights from this account to this alt account, which I plan to use for AWB edits. Thanks. Ca talk to me! 12:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Could you please have that account edit here to verify? Primefac (talk) 12:52, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Noting verification at Special:PermaLink/1256764077#Confirmation. Primefac (talk) 13:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
There's a category with over 2,000 articles that I would like to diffuse into sub-categories. I do regularly use WP:CATALOT but this requires manually selecting each article which would be time consuming in this case due the sheer number of articles involved. Also, many of the articles will need to included in more than one sub-category. AWB would make the job easier as I can create lists of articles to be included in each sub-category and let AWB do the rest. Obi2canibe (talk) 22:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Requests for confirmation

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Hello. While I have met the necessary edit requirements, my account is not yet old enough to fulfill the account age criterion. I am a Recent Changes patroller, and I would love to be able to use Twinkle to speed up the process. It is my belief that access to Twinkle would significantly enhance my ability to fight vandalism on Wikipedia. However, Twinkle requires confirmed rights to use. Given Twinkle's requirement for confirmed rights, I am respectfully requesting this status. I know confirmed status is rarely given upon request, and I fully understand if my request is not approved. Thank you for considering it!

All the best, Anopisthograph (talk) 03:32, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done I think you need to take a close read of WP:VANDAL and make sure you understand what is and is not vandalism before continuing to engage in anti-vandal activities. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 05:56, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Requests for extended confirmation

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I am sorry for making pointless sandbox edits to get EC status, and i promise it will not happen again. Hoben7599 (talk) 08:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

 Automated comment This user has had this permission revoked in the past 180 days ([18]). MusikBot talk 08:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
If we disregard the pointless edits, you're about 70 edits shy of the 500 mark. Marking  Not done, Hoben7599, but feel free to make another request once you've made 500 constructive edits in total. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Testing/training alt TheWikipedetalk 16:37, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:39, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Requests for new page reviewer

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I'd like to request NPR rights. I have prior experience with AfC and NPP, so I'm familiar with the process of reviewing new pages. I'm confident in my understanding of notability guidelines and can easily spot paid/COI editing, as well as unreliable and branded sources. I am also familiar with WP:DP, WP:NOBITING, and CSD

I understand the importance of careful, fair reviews and will do my best to uphold the quality of content on Wikipedia. Thank you! TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:37, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

not done, this does not address the removal of your permissions last year under suspicion of UPE. signed, Rosguill talk 14:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Switching to  On hold so that this doesn't get archived mid-discussion signed, Rosguill talk 18:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
@Rosguill: My account was compromised and i have never been engaged in paid editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:02, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
You are expected to be upfront about prior permissions changes and to address these concerns in your initial request. This is now the third time (2, 1) that you have requested permissions since then without addressing this concern in your initial request. That you did not do so does not inspire confidence. You also have not clarified what steps you have taken to prevent your account from being compromised again, which is a necessity before you are conferred any advanced permissions. signed, Rosguill talk 15:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the chance to explain. I realize I should have addressed this in my initial request, and I'm sorry for not doing so. When my account was compromised, it resulted in my permissions being revoked. I want to be clear that I've never been involved in paid editing.
Since then, I've taken steps to secure my account, including enabling two-factor authentication (2FA) on my registered email, setting a strong password for my account, occasionally changing my password, and regularly checking my account activity to prevent any future issues. I understand how serious this is and am fully committed to keeping my account secure going forward.
I'm really keen to contribute positively to Wikipedia again and will approach NPP and other responsibilities with full accountability. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:46, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Can you please also give a timeline of what happened? How many weeks was your account compromised for? What date was it compromised and what date was the compromise stopped? How bad was the damage when it was compromised? What kind of edits did the attackers make? Any idea how it was compromised in the first place? I understand this is a lot of detail to ask, but explaining exactly what happened should be helpful here. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:43, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Due to my health concerns, as noted here, I was inactive on the site. I gradually recovered, as mentioned here. However, in June 2022, I experienced health issues again, and this time, I didn’t inform the administrators because I had completely stopped using digital devices. As a result of this inactivity, I wasn't able to monitor my account or review my activity on the site. During this time, when my account was compromised, it was used solely for promotional editing by the attacker. Around 15 days before my account was blocked, I noticed I couldn't reset my password because the attacker had hijacked my email and removed it from my Wikipedia account. I recovered my email soon after realizing it was hacked. Upon reviewing my account activity, I found it in a dire state, used solely for promotional editing, which not only damaged Wikipedia but also hurt the trust I had built over several years of hardwork. I also noticed that the account had been inactive after the attacker created 4 articles between May 2023 and July 2023. I was exploring possible ways to regain access. Since I had previously contacted Materialscientist, I emailed them again (as noted here) in August 2023 to confirm my identity and that my email was the original registered email. However, it seemed they were not available. I then contacted the steward team, who directed me to email ca(at)wikimedia.org. After a series of emails, they video-called me, asked some questions, and eventually restored my account on 16 September 2024. Compromise stopped since i regained access in September 2024 and i took necessary steps to secure my Wikipedia account as well as email address. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 04:58, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for those details. Sorry to hear about your health problems. I hope you're doing a lot better now.
1) So your account was compromised from June 2022 to September 2023 (1 year 3 months)? When we take a look at those edits we should assume those are the attacker?
2) Any idea how your account got compromised? They somehow broke into your email and from there used that to password reset your Wikipedia account and got access to it that way? I guess that means that a) you were specifically targeted by UPEs since random hackers would not know or care about your Wikipedia NPP perm and b) they somehow had your email address? Do you remember any phishing attacks against your email or anything like that? –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:22, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
My account was compromised from May 2023 until it was blocked in August 2023, preventing further edits to the mainspace (actual compromise date is not known since i was inactive and under medical observation). The compromise ended when I regained access in September 2024. Any edits made between May and July 2023 were not mine but were done by the attacker. I'm unsure how they accessed my email, but I suspect it occurred after I clicked on a free mobile phone giveaway link shared in a local job offer WhatsApp group (which I have since exited). I downloaded a zip file containing a PDF, unaware that links from untrusted or unknown sources could compromise personal data. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Those dates all seem to line up (stated inactivity dates, compromise dates, XTools activity graph). As long as no UPE-like behavior is found outside the specified compromise dates (contribs link, deleted contribs link, page curation log), and no poor reviewing is found, I think we should consider re-granting NPP. I haven't yet done a deeper check than just dates and any admin should feel free to jump in and help with checking that if they want. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
See the parallel discussion of TheBirdsShedTears' recent autopatrolled request. There xaosflux said the evidence for a compromised account was there but "not definitive" and I'm not sure if anyone ran a CU check at the time. Personally I don't feel comfortable granting rights that we know are actively sought by malicious UPEs (NPR and autopatrolled) based on "not definitive". And if there was a compromise, there's still the question of how it happened, which based on the discussion above still seems to be unclear. – Joe (talk) 08:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm interested in participating in this area of the project. I had a request declined for this two years ago due to lacking "familiarity with relevant policies and guidelines". Since then, I believe I have improved a lot in that aspect. Frost 05:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done Hey man im josh (talk) 12:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I want to retain my NPR rights as it is going to expire and requesting for granting the right and love to review new pages. Xegma(talk) 19:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

 Automated comment This user was granted temporary new page reviewer rights by Hey man im josh (expires 00:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)) and has had 1 request for new page reviewer declined in the past 90 days ([19]). MusikBot talk 19:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Courtesy ping to @Hey man im josh, who granted this trial. Fathoms Below (talk) 21:32, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

I'd like to be a part of the new page patrol process. I have an extensive record with AfD, successfully arguing for deletion of several unsourced or otherwise un-notable articles that should not have been created in the first place. While I have created only a few entirely new articles, all of my articles have been extensively researched and well-sourced. I believe I meet all the requirements in terms of number of edits and length of time on Wikipedia. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:19, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

I was hoping to retain my NPR rights, which are set to expire in a few days. My activity has dropped slightly following the drive due to personal commitments, but I should be able to more actively contribute in the immediate future. Signed, Guessitsavis (she/they) Talk 00:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy ping: Hey man im josh Signed, Guessitsavis (she/they) Talk 00:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
 Automated comment This user was granted temporary new page reviewer rights by Hey man im josh (expires 00:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)). MusikBot talk 00:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Requesting these rights after a trial expired, as I do use it from time to time. I think I did a decent job. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

 Automated comment This user was granted temporary new page reviewer rights by Hey man im josh (expires 00:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)). MusikBot talk 01:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Microplastic Consumer and I've had this account for about two years now, with no warnings or blocks. I've made a good deal of articles and would love to get permission to review new ones. Some of my older work didn't meet Wikipedia standards (See: Eric Hovde, Glenn Elliot), but I've only used those discussions to learn more about Wikipedia policy and notability guidelines. Be rest assured that if given this opportunity I will provide non-biased review. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 03:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

 Automated comment This user has 315 edits in the mainspace. MusikBot talk 03:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
 Not done Hi @Microplastic Consumer, sorry but you don't meet the requirements for NPP. Look into attending WP:NPRSCHOOL after you've gained some more experience working on articles and at WP:AFD. Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

My NPP permission expires soon and I would like to continue help reviewing. Killarnee (talk) 22:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

 Automated comment This user was granted temporary new page reviewer rights by Hey man im josh (expires 00:00, 17 November 2024 (UTC)). MusikBot talk 22:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Requests for page mover

Page mover

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Requests for pending changes reviewer

Pending changes reviewer

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I would like to put my hat in the ring again for this tool. I am aware of vandalism is and have familiarity with BLP policies. I try to avoid being trigger-happy, and usually err on the good side of AGF, so I tend to just leave things I'm not too familiar with alone for other editors to review.

Note: I made my previous request at the same time as requesting rollback. The rollback was declined by User:Fastily due to my recent return from a Wikibreak and failing to leave warnings for my first few edits. I disagree that reasoning carries across to reviewing pending changes, where the bar is to "filter out obvious inappropriate edits and vandalism" in "clear-cut cases". I ask that a new administrator considers this request on its own merits. If declined, I shall not submit another PC request for at least 90 days. Thank you in advance. OXYLYPSE (talk) 09:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

 Automated comment This user has had 1 request for pending changes reviewer declined in the past 90 days ([20]). MusikBot talk 09:20, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
 Request withdrawn - Clearly this isn't going to happen. -OXYLYPSE (talk) 09:15, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

I want to review pending changes. I have reverted vandalism, and I have self-reverted my mistakes (see [21] and [22]). I would like to help review pending changes as a voluntary task. Who am I? / Talk to me! / What have I done? 10:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done @Anonymous1261 while you have a good track record of edits so far and an article published in the mainspace, I see that you have only done a handful of reverts and are not always warning editors after you revert them [23] [24], [25], [26]. When you revert a clearly nonconstructive edit, please make sure to properly warn the user if you can. Some tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet can help with that. I think you can re-apply after maybe a month or two of reverting more nonconstructive edits and gaining a longer track record. Fathoms Below (talk) 19:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
I understand and will I do so.
Who am I? / Talk to me! / What have I done? 03:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

I've been patrolling recent changes for a quiet while about Sri Lankan Articles, and I strongly believe this permission might be helpful. IDB.S (talk) 05:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

As an active recent changes patroller, I have dealt with and reverted/warned many instances of vandalism, BLP, and unsourced content. Lately, I saw that the pending changes backlog was quite high and would like to expand my contributions to that area. Thank you for your time. VolatileAnomaly (talk) 05:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Requests for rollback

Rollback

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I respectfully request Rollback access to facilitate the use of Huggle, which will allow me to promptly and efficiently revert vandalism. I've been monitoring Recent Changes for the past 2-3 months, reverting disruptive edits.

I'm familiar with some Wikipedia policies, including: Reporting repeated vandals after 4 talk page warnings at WP:AIV, reporting reporting sock puppet accounts at WP:SPI and following the 3-revert rule (WP:3RR). And also I'm familiar with the use of Twinkle. ®asteem Talk 20:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I see that you are failing to consistently warn editors when you revert their edits. Why? It's important to leave a notification for every revert you make (especially when reverting good faith edits). Are you aware of tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet which make this extremely easy? -Fastily 21:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Fastily, I'm already using Twinkle. I've warned many users for vandalism, but I don't warn new users who have made only one edit, as per "Back Biting" guideline. Instead, I typically warn a user after their second vandalism attempt. But in future I'll consider warning users even after one non-constructive edit. ®asteem Talk 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
No, that is incorrect. You need to be leaving notifications (or warnings) for every revert, regardless of how many edits the user has made or whether this is the user's first instance of vandalism. -Fastily 01:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
{{Done}} I'll always leave a warning notice on their talk page without digging into their number of edits. ®asteem Talk ®asteem Talk 01:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Great, could you please now go do some RC patrol in which you demonstrate how you will always be notifying all editors when you revert their edits? Also please don't use {{Done}} or {{Not done}} in your replies to me; on this page at least, these are for admin use only. -Fastily 02:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Sure, I'll do RC patrol & will always notify users when I revert their changes. I sincerely apologize for using {done} or {not done} previously. ®asteem Talk 03:17, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Just took another look at your recent contributions and I'm still seeing instances where you are reverting edits and failing to notify the editor: 1, 2, 3. Didn't you just promise that you would be more diligent about this? -Fastily 22:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I have used Twinkle to revert around 800 edits but would like to use a tool like Huggle to be more effective. I use Ultraviolet but it's still incomplete. Sangsangaplaz (Talk to me! I'm willing to help) 15:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done I noticed you make a handful of edits, and then drop off for months at a time. While I appreciate your enthusiasm, I'd like to see you spend at least a month consistently patrolling RecentChanges (Twinkle & Ultraviolet can help with that) before reapplying. Also, please ensure that you are always warning editors when you revert their edits. Thanks, Fastily 22:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
@Fastily: I don't think spending a month consistently patrolling is a requirement for rollback. If someone wants to spend two weeks out of the year patrolling for vandalism, and they're otherwise doing it correctly, let them. In fact, help them by giving them rollback. Levivich (talk) 19:37, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Here's soemthing you won't see me saying every day: I agree entirely with Levivich. We don't need to be giving people the thrird degree over rollback. It truly is not a big deal. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Agreed that rollback is no big deal, hence the availability of javascript tools such as WP:TW & WP:UV that implement rollback in software. However, the rollback right itself now gates access to high-volume tools such as WP:HG & WP:ANVDL which in the wrong hands can be used to cause a lot of damage in a short amount of time. I used to be fast and loose with granting rollback, but I scrutinize more closely now because I've been burned several times by giving rollback to users who got it revoked and/or users who were actually sockpuppets. As for OP's request, they haven't established a consistent enough track record where I can confidently say whether rollback will be used appropriately. Could I grant rollback? Sure. Maybe we get more helpful contributions and nothing bad happens. Do I know that? No of course not, I, like every other admin who answers PERM requests is making educated guesses based on past performance. Obviously that's just my opinion and you're free to disagree. In fact, I won't even stop you if you want to grant rollback, but for what it's worth anything that happens after that point, good or bad, falls entirely on you. -Fastily 10:32, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Understandable. Due to my forgetfulness I keep forgetting my wikipedia password so I tend to be gone for long periods of time. Although, when should I reapply. Should it be in around a month of activity? Sangsangaplaz (Talk to me! I'm willing to help) 08:27, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Reverting vandalism and removing edits by sock-puppets. Also if my move script breaks again. BilledMammal (talk) 16:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi BilledMammal. Not sure if you knew this but folks requesting rollback are usually doing so because they want access to high-volume anti-vandalism/RecentChanges patrol tools such as Huggle or AntiVandal. Is there any reason why something like Twinkle is insufficient for your needs? I did a quick review of your recent contributions and I'm not seeing a high volume of reverts that would necessitate rollback. -Fastily 22:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
 Done Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Normally one would discuss problems with tool use with the editor, on their talk page, and go to a noticeboard which this page is not if they were still unsatisfied. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
@Just Step Sideways: @Fastily: Looking at BilledMammal's use of the rollback (31 edits) so far, they have involved removing sourced content from articles, and are seemingly in violation of "Rollback should be used to revert clear and unambiguous cases of vandalism only. Never use rollback to revert good faith edits." Makeandtoss (talk) 12:56, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Edits by sockpuppets are by definition in bad faith. Further, given the frequent source misrepresentation issues by that sockpuppet, we can’t trust that the presence of a source means the content is supported - and thus it is better to remove them all. BilledMammal (talk) 13:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
That is factually incorrect as WP:GF says: “Violation of policies—such as engaging in sockpuppetry, violating consensus, and so on—may be perpetrated in either good or bad faith.”
Also that’s the second half of what I quoted. The first half explicitly says “vandalism only.” Sockpuppetry although disruptive is not vandalism. You should revert what you disagree with, not mass remove large chunks of what appears to be reliably sourced content.
If you have concerns, which is legitimate given the socking, you can check each of these sources yourself. Otherwise, mass removing everything is doing more harm than good. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, would you also argue against reverting edits by Icewhiz’s sockpuppets?
Regardless, this is common practice, and if you are willing to take full responsibility for CAE’s edits you are welcome to restore them. Personally, given the frequent issues with these edits, I would not be willing to do so. BilledMammal (talk) 13:46, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
In fact, a couple of days ago you were reverting sockpuppet edits with the same justification - what’s different here? BilledMammal (talk) 13:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I would also argue against that. There were many articles even created from scratch by Icewhiz’s several socks including Cuisine of Jerusalem, and the Jordanian Option which I find to be incredibly biased and have not touched. I reverted what I disagreed with, I did not mass revert everything. When linking to my reverts of that sock to make an argument, please maintain honesty by presenting the full picture, and not by presenting a misleading one. Thank you. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
I didn’t see your self-revert - I was looking at just your edits with a relevant edit summary - and regardless, there were many more examples I could have chosen, unless you are saying you’ve self-reverted all of them?
In any case, this is standard practice, and given the widespread issues with this editors contributions I think it was necessary. Of course, as I said before, if you are willing to assume responsibility for the edits you may restore them. BilledMammal (talk) 14:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
I am clearly saying that I selectively reverted some of the socks edits, and not that I mass reverted all of their edits. The link you chose appeared to suggest a mass reversion, which was a technical mistake as evidenced by the immediate following self-revert. Again, back to the real issue here: your use of the rollback was given on explicit conditions that were violated, and this should be addressed. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:33, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
This isn't the right place for this conversation, but reverting block evasion is explicitly a valid use case for rollback: see WP:ROLLBACKUSE #5. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 09:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
@Extraordinary Writ: #5 mentions "by misguided editors" and "unhelpful to WP," which is not necessarily the case here. I think you meant #4? If so, #4 ends with "(but be prepared to explain this use of rollback when asked to)." This means that there should be explanations for the removals, i.e. selective removals and not wholesale ones. (Does #4 include socks anyway?) And also to quote #6: "With a custom edit summary explaining the reason for reverting the changes." Makeandtoss (talk) 10:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Yes, #4. The "explain" part is about explaining that the user is a sock, which isn't always obvious. And #6 is a separate criterion, not a requirement for all rollbacks, as the rest of the guideline makes clear. But again, this isn't the place—feel free to stop by my talk page if you'd like to talk about it more. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 11:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@Extraordinary Writ: @Just Step Sideways: This privilege should be removed. The capability has its proper uses, but one of them isn't so that someone with a strong POV in a contentious topic can mass-revert the edits of someone with the opposite strong POV. Even if the latter has been blocked as a sock. Yes, it is legal to remove sock edits, but a good editor would review them first and keep what improves the article. Now someone has to go through all the reverts and restore what is salvageable. Many of the reverted edits included good content that someone else would have added if the sock hadn't. As examples of how blindly BilledMammal has been wielding this tool, I mention removal of an academic source, reintroduction of an error and deletion of an infobox. Per full disclosure, I am also involved in this topic, which is why I don't remove the permission myself. Zerotalk 12:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

WP:BANREVERT notes that anyone is free to revert any edits made in violation of a ban or block, without giving any further reason, and WP:ROLLBACKUSE#4 expressly permits rollback to be used to revert edits by banned or blocked users in defiance of their block or ban. So, [e]ven if the latter has been blocked as a sock does matter a great bit, since rollback is explicitly permitted to be used when encountering edits made by ban-evading sockpuppets.
That being said, WP:BANREVERT also notes that when reverting edits, care should be taken not to reinstate material that may be in violation of such core policies as neutrality, verifiability, and biographies of living persons. For this reason, mass rollbacks tend to most prudent for dealing with a VOA or when the edits being rolled back are manually checked before the button is clicked. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 00:48, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
To quote WP:BANREVERT fully, not partially: "This does not mean that edits must be reverted just because they were made by a banned editor (changes that are obviously helpful, such as fixing typos or undoing vandalism, can be allowed to stand), but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert." Makeandtoss (talk) 08:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I'd like to request rollback to use Huggle. I was granted it on trial in April 2023 but went on a year-long Wikibreak almost immediately afterwards. A request I made in June was denied because I hadn't been active for very long. I've been much more active since then. Thanks. C F A 💬 03:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm initially inclined to grant the right, seeing as you have both New Page Reviewer and Page Mover (which generally require higher levels of trust). However, after reading this archived talk comment from August, where you appear to agree that you were edit warring, I do have a few questions:
If you are granted this right, under what circumstances do you plan to use the vanilla (i.e. out-of-the box, in-browser) rollback functions? Will you use vanilla rollback while reverting vandalism through Special:RecentChanges, while disputing content edits made by other editors in lieu of using the undo tool, or will you simply use this right for Huggle?
Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
I suppose I might use it to revert sockpuppet edits or blatant vandalism, though Twinkle rollback works just fine for that. I'm mainly looking to use it for Huggle. I wouldn't use it to dispute content edits because it's easier to add an edit summary with Twinkle rollback or Undo. C F A 💬 03:30, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
 Done. The reason I asked is because it is prohibited to use the vanilla rollback tool while disputing good-faith/non-vandal content edits. Keep this in mind, and all should be fine. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:35, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Reason for requesting rollback rights

Uhm hello I've been wondering if I could get rollback perms I want to help prevent vandalism on Wikipedia and if I'm not able to get rollback perms at the moment how do I sign up for the anti-vandilsim class please feel free to give your honest response as I beleave honesty is key and if you think I'm not prepared yet please tell me I like getting feedback it helps me grow and learn on Wikipedia best regards, Paytonisboss (talk) 19:03, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done Normally what we are looking for is evidence that a user is already reverting and warning vandals, and I wasn't able to find that. WP:CVU is where to learn more, but I would also note that you could go in your preferences and turn on WP:TWINKLE if you want to make anti-vandalism work very easy to do. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
thank you for the advice i appreciate that and yes i will use twinkle and i will start patrolling for vandilisim best regards, Paytonisboss (talk) 19:29, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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